A Handful of DW Recs
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thisbluespiritI haven't talked much about Doctor Who, because I tend to enjoy it and find that enjoyment often diminished by discussion, especially in circles that are more negative about Twelve and Steven Moffat than my heart will ever be, but I have indeed been watching and enjoying and loved the finale very much. Anyway, here are some related fanworks I have also enjoyed:
purplefringe has already made a Bill fanvid & it is a truly lovely thing, you will be unsurprised to hear.
selenay has been writing a series of Bill episode tags (for the first few eps, so far) and they're just great. I was trying to think which one in particular to rec, but, really, they're all great.
And, viaeve11, who clearly has the best taste in fic:
Love, That Loosener of Limbs by amatalefay (G, 253 words. Bill Potts/Sappho, Twelve.)
“Like, finally here's a poem that isn't just some bloke whining about how a beautiful girl won’t give him sex, and it's basically ‘sweet mother, I’m too gay to do my chores, blame Aphrodite’. Like, honestly? Most relatable thing I’ve read in years.”
Bill meets Sappho.
Tiny but perfect. <3
And The Last Age Should Show Your Heart by Quanna. (G, 1854 words. Missy, brief mentions/cameos of others.)
The Doctor saves the Master, one final time, and gives her the universe to look after in his place.
A post 'the Doctor Falls' AU in which the Doctor dies, and the Master goes on; without hope, without witness, without reward.
What it says; really clever and sharp and a great thing to read following The Doctor Falls.
(I hope you can tell that this is not the sort of post where you tell me things you dislike about DW. If that's what you'd like to do, I recommend instead going to![[community profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/community.png)
who_at_50 instead which is great for proper discussion, squee, grumbling and all the usual sorts of reactions. Consider that my final rec for the day. ;-p)
purplefringe has already made a Bill fanvid & it is a truly lovely thing, you will be unsurprised to hear.selenay has been writing a series of Bill episode tags (for the first few eps, so far) and they're just great. I was trying to think which one in particular to rec, but, really, they're all great.And, via
eve11, who clearly has the best taste in fic:Love, That Loosener of Limbs by amatalefay (G, 253 words. Bill Potts/Sappho, Twelve.)
“Like, finally here's a poem that isn't just some bloke whining about how a beautiful girl won’t give him sex, and it's basically ‘sweet mother, I’m too gay to do my chores, blame Aphrodite’. Like, honestly? Most relatable thing I’ve read in years.”
Bill meets Sappho.
Tiny but perfect. <3
And The Last Age Should Show Your Heart by Quanna. (G, 1854 words. Missy, brief mentions/cameos of others.)
The Doctor saves the Master, one final time, and gives her the universe to look after in his place.
A post 'the Doctor Falls' AU in which the Doctor dies, and the Master goes on; without hope, without witness, without reward.
What it says; really clever and sharp and a great thing to read following The Doctor Falls.
(I hope you can tell that this is not the sort of post where you tell me things you dislike about DW. If that's what you'd like to do, I recommend instead going to
who_at_50 instead which is great for proper discussion, squee, grumbling and all the usual sorts of reactions. Consider that my final rec for the day. ;-p)
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Date: 6 Jul 2017 06:59 pm (UTC)There. No trouble, as you can see ;)
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Date: 6 Jul 2017 08:25 pm (UTC)And wasn't Bill fab!
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Date: 6 Jul 2017 08:29 pm (UTC)The Masters killing each other was both slightly tragic and absolutely hilarious. I will miss Missy so much.
Oh, yes. It was absolutely perfect and darkly funny and broke my heart all at the same time.
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 09:06 am (UTC)The Sappho one is a gem!
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 03:57 pm (UTC)<3 Bill's so adorable and so casually luminous that I totally buy her as the catalyst for Sappho's gay awakening. <3
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Date: 8 Jul 2017 07:25 am (UTC)"Casually luminous" is a really perfect description of Bill.
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Date: 6 Jul 2017 10:57 pm (UTC)I've been seeing that going around on Tumblr! Thanks for the non-Tumblr link.
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 09:13 am (UTC)What happens to the fandom on Tumblr?
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 09:33 am (UTC)So, yeah, same old, same old; you just can't sign up for the comm but never click on the cut tag/comments etc.
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Date: 6 Jul 2017 11:33 pm (UTC)I'm exhausted by fandom telling me that what I love is total garbage and I should question my taste, morality, intelligence, and sanity for liking it. Gonna have to take a break. Will watch the Christmas special, then am probably done with DW for a long time. After Capaldi, anyone else will just disappoint me.
"The Doctor Falls" broke my cold, cynical heart. *cue sobbing*
I'm very fond of Bill, but it feels as if she kept getting pushed aside for Nardole too often.
I ended up liking Nardole, though I couldn't stand him in "Husbands of River Song." He turned out loyal and silly and snarky. "I'm gonna name a town after you... a really rubbish one. And probably a pig." Better watch out, Doctor...
Ahh! That little Bill/Sappho piece is a delight!
Oh, I've read that fic where Missy carries on in the Doctor's place, desperately trying to live up to him, and kind of finding some peace that way. It got me crying all over again... (I do so wish she and the Doctor could've gone on that last stand, running through the forest, together, but the whole theme was living up to oneself in extremis, without witness, so of course not.)
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 09:14 am (UTC)*hugs*
It's been lovely to share in your enjoyment of the era on tumblr - I don't dare follow almost any other DW fans, so you are almost my sole source of pretty gifset and interesting thoughts and daily pictures of Peter Capaldi, who is, indeed, a lovely, talented and kind human being. And, yes, even if the next Doctor and showrunner are fab, it takes a while to move on from that kind of love.
Glad you enjoyed the recs! :-D
And, yes, in The Doctor Falls, I was saving my Doctor-tears for Christmas and worrying about Bill, and then Missy was the one who completely broke my heart. It was tragic and hilarious and perfect, as other people have said. Michelle Gomez was amazing.
Nardole, Bill and Twelve made a surprisingly good team - rather old school with no romance between any of them.
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 09:35 am (UTC)Oh! I'm saying "!!!" to myself. Someone honestly considers my Tumblring to be worthwhile? I got fed up and nearly quit, because I dared have opinions, and a snot of a Capaldi fan lectured me about how DW would survive without him, and I basically wasn't a worthy fan of his, and was terrible, then blocked me, this despite she really only ever posted Capaldi content -- but there's justice, because she apparently stormed off Tumblr in a huff recently and deleted. About half a dozen of her friends decided to block me, too. So, that's been fun.
But you find me worth it. I'm honoured. *grin*
Anyway, what got me crying so hard in TDF was the poor Doctor (because I decided to get a head start there, before Christmas) and his last stand, and Bill finding him and sobbing so hard that even her Cyberself cried. (And a chunk of fandom says Pearl Mackie can't act. She certainly can when she's given good stuff to do.) I felt regret for Missy, but didn't really cry for her until I read that fanfic.
I was delighted to have an awkward Doctor, an apparently-disinterested cyborg butler, and a lesbian companion who loved her strange alien professor friend, but had no romantic feelings toward him. See, Newvians, even modern DW can work without Doctor/companion romance. (Well, it worked for me. I'm sure S11 will have it back.)
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 09:40 am (UTC)Well, fandom has always had its fair share of drama and drama llamas and worse. I'm sorry you've been having to deal with one of them, though. This is why my tumblr presence is mostly limited to screencaps of old telly! Not because that side of fandom's not anywhere you go, but at least over here you can mostly navigate it a bit more easily - there's more choice about what you read/don't read.
Anyway, what got me crying so hard in TDF was the poor Doctor (because I decided to get a head start there, before Christmas) and his last stand
I'm not surprised. <3
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Date: 8 Jul 2017 06:11 am (UTC)Stand by Me
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 01:50 am (UTC)Thanks for the recs :)
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 09:16 am (UTC)I don't think anyone's sure about Bill for the moment, and that ending also leaves it very open.
As to the recs, my pleasure!
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 05:52 am (UTC)The finale was so good on so many levels. It had high expectation to live up to, being the first televised meet between two Master, AND Mondasian Cybermen, AND Twelve's regeneration, AND Bill's departure, and it managed not skimp on any of it. I love how ironic and perfect it is that the Doctor usually hates himself when he meets, but still manages to save the day, while the Master really likes him/herself but they still shoot themselves in the back.
I also love that the Doctor chooses to be the Doctor every time he steps out of his TARDIS, and that anyone can make those same choices at any time. And be kind.
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 09:18 am (UTC)Oh, yes. It really was perfect and funny and tragic and twisted up, just as it ought to be. I shall miss Missy, though! Michelle Gomez has been fantastic.
I also love that the Doctor chooses to be the Doctor every time he steps out of his TARDIS, and that anyone can make those same choices at any time. And be kind.
Yes, that's very true. That's areally good point, especially about Twelve's era as a whole, isn't it?
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 10:02 am (UTC)And I've adored this past series. Twelve is the Doctor I've been waiting for in the new run of DW. I cried hard for him. I don't blame him for not wanting to change. He doesn't know that Bill's okay, that Missy changed her mind. (I'd predicted she'd kill Simm, but not that he'd return the favour. That broke my heart too.)
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 05:17 pm (UTC)Yes, me too, on both fronts.
The Sappho fic is a gem. :-)
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Date: 7 Jul 2017 08:30 pm (UTC)Yay! I saw this on tumblr but it's tidier to keep (and bookmark) on AO3.
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Date: 8 Jul 2017 09:35 am (UTC)This is the reason I only read things about Doctor Who from people I know. I've seen people complain about his writing of women and how he only writes one type (can't remember the details, have blocked it from my brain) and I just want to shout at them to watch Press Gang. Or Coupling. But knowing he's written them will just make them prejudiced against them, so it won't work.
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Date: 9 Jul 2017 07:36 am (UTC)And, yeah, once somebody is getting that riled by somebody's work, it's best that they just leave them severely alone. I mean, I can't seem to stand Chris Chibnall any time he gets serious and I don't really have a solid reason for that; it's just about my personal preference. But, hey, maybe next year I'll progress to denouncing him and all his works as being of the devil! (If I do, point me here, and slap me as if you were Lynda. ;-D)
<3
(BUt we have Lynda and they don't anyway, so the poor souls are only to be pitied.)
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Date: 9 Jul 2017 01:52 pm (UTC)That is a very good point, I will remember that.